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2015 Chicago Marathon. Mile 13. I’m flying—feeling like I could run forever. Heart surgery, back surgery, barely able to stand a decade before, and here I am crushing it. Then I see the sign: NOT ALMOST THERE. Everything changed. Heavy legs. Cramping. Mental breakdown. I barely finished what started as my best race ever. That sign broke me, but it also built me. Southside Chicago kid who studied for 15 seconds between building cars on the assembly line. Graduated in 5 years. Built companies. Sold two. 800 employees. Young father at 20 who figured it out as I went. I’ve spent 50+ episodes of Not Almost There interviewing experts, and now my cohost and I are diving deeper into the conversations that matter most. We dig into what it really takes—in business, branding, health, life. No fluff. Real talk about building something that matters while the clock’s ticking. Whether you’re running your first mile or your hundredth company, we’re here to help you go the distance. Because almost there isn’t good enough.
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Sunday Jan 10, 2021
Pursuit of Happyness with Chris Gardner
Sunday Jan 10, 2021
Sunday Jan 10, 2021
Today, I’m joined by Chris Gardner. You may know Chris’s story from a movie called the Pursuit of Happiness where Will Smith plays him. It’s an incredible movie (and book) as he went from being a homeless single father to working his way up Wall Street and eventually creating his own firm in 1987.
Chris has since been featured on Oprah, Good Morning America, The Today Show, Forbes, and many other places.
I met Chris when he was a Keynote speaker at Refuel, a conference I created in which he references.
In this episode, Chris drops his thoughts on what folks can do during the pandemic to double down and take on new challenges "like a boss". As he states, this is the 4th quarter where the players play. I always learn something when I talk to Chris, and this conversation is no exception.
Please enjoy.
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